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- Flame and ice realm might not be the only star around that area. There might be minor star that doesn't have good inheritance backing em up. On the other hand, lifespan of divine are like 10k+, so they have more than enough time to produce 10 or even 100 kids.
I wasn't thinking of the explanation for why one side is predominantly male and the other female. I was trying to explain why the Snow Song realm after thousands of years of conflict don't have overwhelming numbers. If both sides start off with the same number of people, but just with discrepancy in genders, the side with 90% females will produce more children than the side which is only 10% females, even though they have more males. Like I said, one male can sire 9 kids at a time (from 9 different females) if they had to, but one female can only have one pregnancy at the same time.Sweeper Monk said:
You can explain this discrepancy away by simply saying that the people of Snow Song realm are less fertile than the people of the Flame God realm.
Nope. It is related to Yin and Yang energies. Snow Song Realm is an Ice World, rich in Yin energy, so most of the children born will be females, and Flame God Realm should be a place rich in Yang Energy, so most of the children born will be males.
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Your theory is reasonable and logical, but maybe it's not the case because of infertility or something.
I wasn't thinking of the explanation for why one side is predominantly male and the other female. I was trying to explain why the Snow Song realm after thousands of years of conflict don't have overwhelming numbers. If both sides start off with the same number of people, but just with discrepancy in genders, the side with 90% females will produce more children than the side which is only 10% females, even though they have more males. Like I said, one male can sire 9 kids at a time (from 9 different females) if they had to, but one female can only have one pregnancy at the same time.Sweeper Monk said:
You can explain this discrepancy away by simply saying that the people of Snow Song realm are less fertile than the people of the Flame God realm.
Nope. It is related to Yin and Yang energies. Snow Song Realm is an Ice World, rich in Yin energy, so most of the children born will be females, and Flame God Realm should be a place rich in Yang Energy, so most of the children born will be males.
. - Btw, the Qingyue real empress thing just means that she is the true main wife who is 'none of my business' mode even though she's the main wife. Mars assistant is basically asking Mars which one is actually the true main wife... Jasmine or Qingyue
- edited August 2017
To clarify, in the context of 'Lord Realm King' this not refer to cultivation level, it refers to title like 'Kings' meaning ruler of a Realm.LittleIrishMan said:So the Realm kings cultivation realms are probs around Divine King realm/sovereign realms, looks like the last two stages of Divine profound perhaps True God and Saint lvls (taking a guess of the authors previous novels)
Actually they know quite a bit about the True Gods, being able to inherit memories of the True Gods and all. There is some type of bottle neck that prevents them from moving beyond the Divine Realm. We know that Jasmine inherited the memories of the Star God of slaughter.I think that Jasmine and her father cant be true gods or above as there is very little knowledge about the beings of that era due to them being extinct and the users of their legacies are only able to reach a certain lvl and eventually Plato due to still being Mortals (non true gods might not have immortality) for example jasmines brother that ised GWOTB who is stronger than her was only able to reach the 6/7th lvl out 12(true god lvl) due to his body and profound strength not being able to withstand the higher lvl, this shows the disparity between current powerhouses of ROTG compared to those of the primordial/gods era, so there must certainly be lvls beyond the last 2 nameless divine profound stages as YC would eventually have to have the cultivation stage and power that surpasses the past true gods in order to defeat the thing that brought the end of the primordial/Gods Era
And Jasmine was suppose to be OP this early on in the Story, She has inherited the strength of a Star God, is feared by most people in the ROTG, and when she had access to just 1/1000th of her power she was stronger than Divine Sovereigns and Divine Kings, It is unlikely that she is not in the 'Divine Lord Realm'. Her father might be a couple of small realms above her or a large realm itself, or simply might have some other method to control the other Star Gods. We don't what the power gaps are like in those stages.
True Gods were not immortal, they aged and died with age, hence the primordial seal of life and death was such a treasure. - edited August 2017@peeplo2003
Not puppy love, but She's technically the main wife. However, she has been MIA the whole book, so author is joking with that fact by saying that she is a 'bystander' main empress/wife. - @peeplo2003
Not puppy love, but She's technically the main wife. However, she has been MIA the hold book, so author is joking with that fact by saying that she is a 'bystander' main empress/wife.
Means? - edited August 2017@peeplo2003
The phrase is something like 'Xia Qingyue: Ever since the beginning, the 'not my business' actual main female'. What he means is that Xia Qingyue is, ever since the beginning, a bystander in (or nothing to do with) YC adventure, even though she is technically YC's main wife.
Later on, Mars assistant (Hot female or Fire girl) asks Mars who is actually the 'real' main female--- Jasmine or Qingyue. To which he doesn't give us the answer. - edited August 2017Why should there be main wife I want YC to treat all of his wives ife equally.
- By reading about that male to female ratio in Snow and Fire Realms and comments here I realized that people here forgot about something - there is 90% males in Fire Realm but that doesn't mean that they are bound to take wives and concubines only from their lands... I believe that they can have really bad reputation among other Realms of conquerors and rapists.
Of course I doubt it will be about all clans and such, but I'm preety sure that number of douchebags who go around worlds to raping and plundering is unusually high. - edited August 2017Looks like a lot of people are misunderstanding that dialog between Jasmine and the Universe Devouring Beasts, so I'll clarify a few things.
When the Universe Devouring Beast tried to guess Jasmine's Profound Strength, it didn't know that Jasmine was just a spirit (who didn't need to be too strong to survive in that kind of place). If Jasmine had a body, then probably she would need to be at Divine Sovereign to survive for long in the 'space between dimensions' (let's call it spatial tunnel), but since she was just in a soul form, she could survive in there even if she was not a Divine Sovereign.Chapter 474 – The Intensifying Rampage of the Spatial Turbulence
“To be able to survive in this place, looks like this little girl’s strength is at least at the level of a Divine Sovereign. However this is our domain, just obediently become our nourishment!!”
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“Us… courting death? Hahahahahaha! Not once has anyone ever dared speak to this king in such a fashion… Ah I see, you are actually a pitiful spirit with no physical body. No wonder you are able to survive for such a long time in this realm.”
See? So the first assumption the Universe Devouring did wasn't necessarily right. Jasmine could be way below Divine Sovereign, since she was just a Soul and could survive in the Spatial Tunnel easier than someone with a physical body.
Also, just because the Universe Devouring Beast looked confident about defeating Jasmine even if her Profound Strength were at Divine Sovereign doesn't mean the Universe Devouring Beast was stronger than people at that Realm, it actually implies that Divine Sovereign is above that Universe Devouring Beast's Profound Realm, and that he wouldn't be able to face one in a normal battlefield.Chapter 474 – The Intensifying Rampage of the Spatial Turbulence
“To be able to survive in this place, looks like this little girl’s strength is at least at the level of a Divine Sovereign. However this is our domain, just obediently become our nourishment!!”
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This was because this location was a space between dimensions, a place where it was extremely hard to release profound energy. Due to this fact, unless you were ridiculously strong, if you met a Universe Devouring Beast, your only option was to flee with all your might. However, a Universe Devouring Beast’s ability to control and interfere with spatial properties far exceeded that of other beings; it could easily cut off its targets pathways, leaving them nowhere to run. So even if the victim was not devoured by the Universe Devouring Beast, he would be engulfed and destroyed by the collapsing spatial tunnel.
As showed in the quotes above, the reason why the Universe Devouring Beast was confident about defeating even a Divine Sovereign was because of the battlefield (Spatial Tunnels), which was basically those beasts' domain and would give them a lot of advantage while suppressing his enemies.
As for the reason why Jasmine was able to kill the Universe Devouring Beast in the Spatial Tunnels, where people would have a hard time releasing Profound Strength, was probably because her understandings of the natural laws of Space are very advanced (as showed in chapter 821) + her Profound Arts' main characteristic is compression of Profound Strength, so she was able to deal with the 'suppression' of the Spatial Tunnel.Chapter 821 – A Premonition of Danger
“When your profound strength grows, it essentially means that the density of the profound energy in your profound veins is growing. You can also understand it as your profound energy being compressed,” Jasmine said in a bland voice, “Every time you rise by a level, it means that your profound energy has become slightly more compressed. Once it reaches a certain level of compression, a fundamental change will occur… that is also when you enter a new realm.”
“You? You still have a long way to go,” Jasmine said in a surly manner, “Just tearing space alone will require a large amount of power. Furthermore, if you want to traverse through space, it will use up an extremely large amount of energy. Finally and most importantly, you will need to have a complete and thorough understanding of the laws of space to do this. The laws of space and the other elemental laws cannot even be mentioned in the same breath. If you want to completely understand them, you will need at least a few thousand or even tens of thousands of years of cultivation to comprehend them.”
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Yun Che briefly nodded his head.
Jasmine raised her hand, it was dainty and exquisite, as flawless, tender and delicate as white snow. Just from looking at this small hand, one would never think that a casual wave could unleash a might that would destroy the heavens and the earth. “However, my profound art will once more compress my profound energy to the extreme every time I fire off an attack. This will reduce the scope of the attack but dramatically increase its power.”
See? That's why Jasmine was able to kill that Universe Devouring Beast in that place, and it doesn't mean her strength was already at Divine Sovereign at that time. - @Evil Jesus
Awesome explanation.
@Ruki
No point in knowing about Jasmine's Strength as when Yun Che meets her again, he will be stronger than her! - edited August 2017
I understood that, and I got that universe devouring beats are probably weaker than Divine Sovereigns, but can beat Divine Sovereigns in chaotic space since their Profound strength is restricted. Jasmine was able to beat those beasts despite those weaknesses, and despite having access to less than 1/1000th of her power. That's why I am implying that she is stronger than a Divine Sovereign. It is not implied that the ability to compress her power gives her the ability to jump multiple big realms in combat, that is the nature of her profound art.Looks like a lot of people are misunderstanding that dialog between Jasmine and the Universe Devouring Beasts, so I'll clarify a few things.
When the Universe Devouring Beast tried to guess Jasmine's Profound Strength, it didn't know that Jasmine was just a spirit (who didn't need to be too strong to survive in that kind of place). If Jasmine had a body, then probably she would need to be at Divine Sovereign to survive for long in the 'space between dimensions' (let's call it spatial tunnel), but since she was just in a soul form, she could survive in there even if she was not a Divine Sovereign.Chapter 474 – The Intensifying Rampage of the Spatial Turbulence
“To be able to survive in this place, looks like this little girl’s strength is at least at the level of a Divine Sovereign. However this is our domain, just obediently become our nourishment!!”
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“Us… courting death? Hahahahahaha! Not once has anyone ever dared speak to this king in such a fashion… Ah I see, you are actually a pitiful spirit with no physical body. No wonder you are able to survive for such a long time in this realm.”
See? So the first assumption the Universe Devouring did wasn't necessarily right. Jasmine could be way below Divine Sovereign, since she was just a Soul and could survive in the Spatial Tunnel easier than someone with a physical body.
Also, just because the Universe Devouring Beast looked confident about defeating Jasmine even if her Profound Strength were at Divine Sovereign doesn't mean the Universe Devouring Beast was stronger than people at that Realm, it actually implies that Divine Sovereign is above that Universe Devouring Beast's Profound Realm, and that he wouldn't be able to face one in a normal battlefield.Chapter 474 – The Intensifying Rampage of the Spatial Turbulence
“To be able to survive in this place, looks like this little girl’s strength is at least at the level of a Divine Sovereign. However this is our domain, just obediently become our nourishment!!”
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This was because this location was a space between dimensions, a place where it was extremely hard to release profound energy. Due to this fact, unless you were ridiculously strong, if you met a Universe Devouring Beast, your only option was to flee with all your might. However, a Universe Devouring Beast’s ability to control and interfere with spatial properties far exceeded that of other beings; it could easily cut off its targets pathways, leaving them nowhere to run. So even if the victim was not devoured by the Universe Devouring Beast, he would be engulfed and destroyed by the collapsing spatial tunnel.
As showed in the quotes above, the reason why the Universe Devouring Beast was confident about defeating even a Divine Sovereign was because of the battlefield (Spatial Tunnels), which was basically those beasts' domain and would give them a lot of advantage while suppressing his enemies.
As for the reason why Jasmine was able to kill the Universe Devouring Beast in the Spatial Tunnels, where people would have a hard time releasing Profound Strength, was probably because her understandings of the natural laws of Space are very advanced (as showed in chapter 821) + her Profound Arts' main characteristic is compression of Profound Strength, so she was able to deal with the 'suppression' of the Spatial Tunnel.Chapter 821 – A Premonition of Danger
“When your profound strength grows, it essentially means that the density of the profound energy in your profound veins is growing. You can also understand it as your profound energy being compressed,” Jasmine said in a bland voice, “Every time you rise by a level, it means that your profound energy has become slightly more compressed. Once it reaches a certain level of compression, a fundamental change will occur… that is also when you enter a new realm.”
“You? You still have a long way to go,” Jasmine said in a surly manner, “Just tearing space alone will require a large amount of power. Furthermore, if you want to traverse through space, it will use up an extremely large amount of energy. Finally and most importantly, you will need to have a complete and thorough understanding of the laws of space to do this. The laws of space and the other elemental laws cannot even be mentioned in the same breath. If you want to completely understand them, you will need at least a few thousand or even tens of thousands of years of cultivation to comprehend them.”
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Yun Che briefly nodded his head.
Jasmine raised her hand, it was dainty and exquisite, as flawless, tender and delicate as white snow. Just from looking at this small hand, one would never think that a casual wave could unleash a might that would destroy the heavens and the earth. “However, my profound art will once more compress my profound energy to the extreme every time I fire off an attack. This will reduce the scope of the attack but dramatically increase its power.”
See? That's why Jasmine was able to kill that Universe Devouring Beast in that place, and it doesn't mean her strength was already at Divine Sovereign at that time.
We cannot reach much into the fact that 'She could just survive in chaotic space because she was a spirit body' since right after than she does a feat that 'Divine Sovereigns' should have trouble doing, and she does it with access to less that 1/1000th of her power, mostly far lower than that since by than the poison was also only 1/3rd cleared
She previously had also mentioned that it takes 1000 years + to find a successor to inherit the Divine strength of a God, and knowing how much importance is being put on this 'Ritual' I just find it unlikely that she in the mid-tiers of power in the ROTG. If she is in the mid-tiers in the divine realms, than that means that there are barely any people who are in the upper big realms of the divine realms, which I just find unlikely, of course I could be wrong. We have heard to much of the 12 star god's being feared people etc, for me to think she's not part of the strongest people in ROTG, obviously not as strong as her father, but definitely up there with the top.
I guess we won't come to know till Mar's actually reveals her cultivation level. - @Evil Jesus
To be honest we can't say anything about her cultivation level. Her combat prowess in her spirit form were enough to kill Universe Devouring Beast with ease, but it can be because the nature of her power, much higher power level than them or combination of both. We don't know how high is average Divine realm in RotG and in comparison to top Realms. We don't know what top level of cultivation is. And we don't know what exactly the Saint Realm is.
I also faintly remember that it was mentioned by someone that 'Divine Realm is a limit for Yun Che'. And this suppose to be kinda of the insult. Do you know the chapter when it was said? I think it was when Bingyun and her apprentice apeared for the first time, but I can't find that chapter at all... That would make the whole thing even more confusing. - edited August 2017
It was said by the Sword Spirit Clan girl, during the Primordial Ark Arc, don't remember the exact chap. He mentioned that it was the limit for all mortals, not only YC, and we do not know if it meant the first level of the divine profound realm, or all the realms that make up the divine profound. Most likely it refers to the later.@Evil Jesus
To be honest we can't say anything about her cultivation level. Her combat prowess in her spirit form were enough to kill Universe Devouring Beast with ease, but it can be because the nature of her power, much higher power level than them or combination of both. We don't know how high is average Divine realm in RotG and in comparison to top Realms. We don't know what top level of cultivation is. And we don't know what exactly the Saint Realm is.
I also faintly remember that it was mentioned by someone that 'Divine Realm is a limit for Yun Che'. And this suppose to be kinda of the insult. Do you know the chapter when it was said? I think it was when Bingyun and her apprentice apeared for the first time, but I can't find that chapter at all... That would make the whole thing even more confusing.
It was said in the context that Honge'r serving YC is a travesty since Hong'er is from the primordial level and her limit is not the divine profound, and a mortal is not worth of being her master.
Edit: Here you go http://www.wuxiaworld.com/atg-index/atg-chapter-488/ Chapter 488
Oh, thanks man. And that's exactly what I was talking about - now that we know that there are several sub-realms what exactly did she meant? And I'm not sure if that girl would be so against it if it was for example Jasmine's Father that found Hong'er - after all Gods are dead so there is literally no one who can qualify to be her master. We miss too many information.
It was said by the Sword Spirit Clan girl, during the Primordial Ark Arc, don't remember the exact chap. He mentioned that it was the limit for all mortals, not only YC, and we do not know if it meant the first level of the divine profound realm, or all the realms that make up the divine profound. Most likely it refers to the later.@Evil Jesus
To be honest we can't say anything about her cultivation level. Her combat prowess in her spirit form were enough to kill Universe Devouring Beast with ease, but it can be because the nature of her power, much higher power level than them or combination of both. We don't know how high is average Divine realm in RotG and in comparison to top Realms. We don't know what top level of cultivation is. And we don't know what exactly the Saint Realm is.
I also faintly remember that it was mentioned by someone that 'Divine Realm is a limit for Yun Che'. And this suppose to be kinda of the insult. Do you know the chapter when it was said? I think it was when Bingyun and her apprentice apeared for the first time, but I can't find that chapter at all... That would make the whole thing even more confusing.
It was said in the context that Honge'r serving YC is a travesty since Hong'er is from the primordial level and her limit is not the divine profound, and a mortal is not worth of being her master.
Edit: Here you go http://www.wuxiaworld.com/atg-index/atg-chapter-488/ Chapter 488- 1- I didn't even suppose her Profound Realm, I only said that we can't really base on that dialogue to predict Jasmine's level of Profound Strength,
2- I didn't say Jasmine's weaker than a Divine Sovereign, though I believe that the fact that she was able to kill those Universe Beasts doesn't mean she is stronger than them.
3- I didn't say that Jasmine's compression ability allowed her to jump levels in Battle Prowess (even though I believe so), I just meant that the compression ability should somehow counter the effects of the environment to the Profound Strength released. - Shiro_Shinigami said:
Oh, thanks man. And that's exactly what I was talking about - now that we know that there are several sub-realms what exactly did she meant? And I'm not sure if that girl would be so against it if it was for example Jasmine's Father that found Hong'er - after all Gods are dead so there is literally no one who can qualify to be her master. We miss too many information.
I think she meant anyone below the True Gods' level isn't worth of having Hong'er as their sword/'servant'. Maybe she wanted Hong'er to be free, not serving anyone. - So basically every ruler and Powerhouse may just very much be at the peak of divine realm and cant go anyhigher due to their mortal limits, that sword spirit said this would happen to YC but we know that is pure bs as YC would eventually surpass the power of True Gods due to his special physique, various bloodline, legacies and monstrous comprehension of profound arts for example we already possibly know that he will eventually break through the mortal limits of GWOTB and achieve its final lvl
- edited August 2017Think XW was at the 1st stage of divine profound(origin lvl) as he only had the profound strength because YC said he understands more and that to be a true DP it needs to be in body,spirit,profound(look at first three realm on the list kinda reinforces what he said) so perhaps after a practitioner completes these they would become divine spirit or king profound realm..
Ipersonally hope that there are no more stages or at least a lot less or thisseries is going to continue forever and I certainly do not look forward to yunche once again being at the lowest strength spectrum.
It was along time since I read it but when yun che asked Jasmine about the strength ofher father, he asked if her father was at the divine realm or even saint realmand she answered if he knew what a realm king is. This gives me the impressionthat a realm king is actually above the saint realm.
- edited August 2017Her father is probably at most peak of divine( at least Divine Lord), saint realm is probs a realm beyond true gods(just a guess), the powerhouses in ROTG arnt anywere near that lvl (True God) as they are still confined by there mortal limits, yea I hope that these stages arnt the final ones and that they don't have sub ranks like Divine origin 1-10 > divine soul 1-10 >..... or this novel will really take forever to finish
- edited August 2017He Ling:
Age 19
Last member of the Wood Spirit Clan's Royal Family, after being saved by Yun Che she steels her heart and decides to ask him to be her Master.
Disposition: Frail and delicate on the outside, however, when it comes to taking revenge, she'll spare no effort and use all kinds of methods.
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I smell a betrayal. Poor Yun Che
I think when you reach the Divine Profound Realm you stop using levels (lvl 1 Sov, level 2 Sov, etc) and use stages instead so level 1 is Divine Origin then level 2 is Divine Soul, level 3 is Divine Tribulation, etc. So those stages Mars revealed are all part of the Divine Profound Realm and not separate realms. If that's true then after Divine Profound Realm is Saint Profound Realm. - He Ling:
Age 19
Last member of the Wood Spirit Clan's Royal Family, after being saved by Yun Che she steels her heart and decides to ask him to be her Master.
Disposition: Frail and delicate on the outside, however, when it comes to taking revenge, she'll spare no effort and use all kinds of methods.
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I smell a betrayal. Poor Yun Che
I think when you reach the Divine Profound Realm you stop using levels (lvl 1 Sov, level 2 Sov, etc) and use stages instead so level 1 is Divine Origin then level 2 is Divine Soul, level 3 is Divine Tribulation, etc. So those stages Mars revealed are all part of the Divine Profound Realm and not separate realms. If that's true then after the Divine Profound Realm is the Saint Profound Realm. - I think when you reach the Divine Profound Realm you stop using levels (lvl 1 Sov, level 2 Sov, etc) and use stages instead so level 1 is Divine Origin then level 2 is Divine Soul, level 3 is Divine Tribulation, etc. So those stages Mars revealed are all part of the Divine Profound Realm and not separate realms. If that's true then after the Divine Profound Realm is the Saint Profound Realm.
Even the Sov 10 is 'split' into early, middle and late/peak stages, so even though Divine Origin and the others are probably only stages, they must be split into 10 stages as well, since the difference between the early and peak stages must be pretty huge; If there's nothing to classify different people in the Divine Origin, for example, things will get pretty difficult. - edited August 2017i hope that stages go something like this so that the novel does not drag on...
Divine Profound stages:1.Divine Origin Realm (Early>mid>Late/Peak) not (1>10)
Saint or God stages:(just a guess as there might be stages beyond Divine profound)
2.Divine Soul Realm (Early>mid>Late/Peak)
3.Divine Tribulation Realm (Early>mid>Late/Peak)
4.Divine Spirit Realm (Early>mid>Late/Peak)
5.Divine King Realm (Early>mid>Late/Peak)
6.Divine Sovereign Realm (Early>mid>Late/Peak)
7.Divine Lord Realm (Early>mid>Late/Peak)
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?? - i hope that stages go something like this so that the novel does not drag on...
Divine Profound stages:1.Divine Origin Realm (Early>mid>Late/Peak) not (1>10)
Saint or God stages:(just a guess as there might be stages beyond Divine profound)
2.Divine Soul Realm (Early>mid>Late/Peak)
3.Divine Tribulation Realm (Early>mid>Late/Peak)
4.Divine Spirit Realm (Early>mid>Late/Peak)
5.Divine King Realm (Early>mid>Late/Peak)
6.Divine Sovereign Realm (Early>mid>Late/Peak)
7.Divine Lord Realm (Early>mid>Late/Peak)
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Hell no. If there is something I liked in ATG is that its cultivation realms are properly divided into 10 lesser stages. That half-assed shit of 'early>mid>late' used in other Xianxia/Xuanhuan always bothered me.'A person only dies when they are forgotten' - Dr. Hiluluk